CC Venom Offroader 'Taco-Belle'

generis

Maybe take up knitting.
So I have always wanted a slightly more versatile trail rig with a real big offroader feel for it.... and I think I found out how to do it! I'm using the Venom Creeper as a base, so that means the lockable axles, and their center trans fitted into a CC Scaler Combo.
Here's the inspiration!
I have to add some real pics to model from (for TTC), so here's some of the ones I will study for this thing:

IFS:

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IFS and front skid (cool)

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with this front light setup:

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rear sort of like this:

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cab sliders:

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interior and window tubes:

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So far so good. For paint It's a Taco-Belle so for those of you that aren't french (I'm not either! haha) that's a FEMALE sort of thing. So it's going to be lipstick red with black doors and way too many sponsor stickers. Along with some GCM flair to boot jason Stole this paint idea from 'wildyota' on rctoyotas.freeforums.org....
Something similar to this sort of feel:

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Now let's see where I'm at.....
 

generis

Maybe take up knitting.
I got the center trans stuck on the front mount, and got the dogbone in there also.. it's the traxxas 5mm drive cups and a savage 84mm dogbone to stick in the middle. That won't break any time soon! haha!

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So I never tried the lockable Venom axles before, and thought that a speedy trail truck with some occasional bashing might be a good idea to have the open diffs. Got them made up and used HPI Blitz ultra thin metal hexes for the drives, and then stuck on the soft compound BFG's to run it around. I tried these on another trail rig here, and they have a surprising amount of stick on the rocks! Yay!

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Now, the layout. I started with the TACO typical layout, using their plastic roll bars etc (it was in the box anyway) and I did want to use the tire mount in the rear, so ... .some of this stuff will be kept for good, some will go the way of the dinosaur. For now, it's layout looks like this:

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Going to be TONS of room for my interior and electrics here, so no worries about any of that. It's going to ride around 1/4 inch taller than this, but that's about it. The shocks will be a 80/20 drooped so there won't be much up travel. I'm going to stick in some full fenderwells/splash guards also, and keep it clean as possible inside. I think a couple of 'scale' metal skidplates might show up on it also! hahaha.

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The wheels tuck in real nice with the 4.5mm offset rims and tiny hexes, so that's a good thing. The stance is just about exactly that of the stock honcho that I have on the shelf (Aaron's sick truck). I'm real stoked to have this build coming along finally.. it's been in my brains forever!!!!
I have the 4 chrome light buckets for the nose also (like the top pic) for the front bumper lighting already, so the details are coming along also......
More later..
 
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vonclod

Guest
its looking like a cool build..i kinda like the chassis, who makes it?:beerchug:..ahh i,ll check the link:luxhello:..all i can say is wow very nice design..definatlygonna be high on my "next purchase" list
 
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ecoli

Guest
Lookin fine!

Are you going to make it IFS somehow?

x2. You gotta go all the way and make it IFS. A bit of a pain to do, but the parts are out there to do it!

I've been wanting to do a rig like this for a while, basically a full-on Baja desert race truck. Will be watching this one closely :beerchug:
 

UNGLEWD

Supporting Member
This is going to be a good one for sure, you should enter it in the Scale Throwdown!!!!!
 

generis

Maybe take up knitting.
whoa, whoa.. that's 2 great ideas in one day.. I will have to ignore the second until tomorrow! Over my 1 good idea per day! hahahah!!

OK, well... if I have to.. then IFS it is. Dang.. I wanted this to run in a couple weeks, but not now! :laugh:
And, OK, kev.. I'll look into it. Do I have to have a real actual replica to model from? because I have like 4 trucks I'm copying right now... ?




Dang.. IFS, that's going to be SICK. Even I want to see how that is going to work out! hahahaa. Dang you guys :blink:
 

UNGLEWD

Supporting Member
whoa, whoa.. that's 2 great ideas in one day.. I will have to ignore the second until tomorrow! Over my 1 good idea per day! hahahah!!

OK, well... if I have to.. then IFS it is. Dang.. I wanted this to run in a couple weeks, but not now! :laugh:
And, OK, kev.. I'll look into it. Do I have to have a real actual replica to model from? because I have like 4 trucks I'm copying right now... ?




Dang.. IFS, that's going to be SICK. Even I want to see how that is going to work out! hahahaa. Dang you guys :blink:


Nope, this year you guys can have multiple references....Join the fun!!!
The indy suspension sounds and would look the best...bit of development time on your hands for our entertainment :popcorn: You always aim to please
 

Headquake

...at the H.O.P.
Oooh Nice. The way a Slash should be built in the first place. Theres nothing too real looking about a slash once you lift the body off. It'll be nice with a rear axle and actual frame. I tried making one of these once by using a tamiya pajero CCo1 chassis. Worked okay but kinda slow and dumpy. Want to try again properly someday. Excited to see how you go about this.
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generis

Maybe take up knitting.
Thanks, Head.. (best ontario builder by far :drooler:) I'm looking to outdo myself on this one! and still beat the senses out of it regularily haha!.
Added a bunch more pics to the first thread for inspiration
 
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ecoli

Guest
Glad to see you're buying into the IFS idea. Best is to go with a Slash 4x4 front end. You'll find the track width is too wide, so will need some shorter a-arms (I think the nitro stampede ones work), and then of course shortening up the linkages, etc. Of course, you could machine your own arms. If so, make sure to stock it, there's definitely demand from guys who, as noted, want to run a desert baja truck but make it more realistic (i.e., solid rear axle/IFS).

Don't forget to pick up a couple of spare wheels/tires for the tubed out rear end you'll have to braze up :laugh:
 

generis

Maybe take up knitting.
I think this is going to be a mostly full custom job here, and that may not be the fastest thing to get going, it will be original! haha! I'm going to loose some brain cells figuring this one out! So far it's a lockable front diff with full short arm ifs double wishbones and coil-overs. I have no idea how I'm going to fit all that in there! :blink: Aaron just said to try a 1/16 revo/slash setup, but that's not lockable diffs, so ....... Hmmmmm
 
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ecoli

Guest
I think this is going to be a mostly full custom job here, and that may not be the fastest thing to get going, it will be original! haha! I'm going to loose some brain cells figuring this one out! So far it's a lockable front diff with full short arm ifs double wishbones and coil-overs. I have no idea how I'm going to fit all that in there! :blink: Aaron just said to try a 1/16 revo/slash setup, but that's not lockable diffs, so ....... Hmmmmm

Traxxas makes a spool that works in the 1/10 slash diff, I'm sure there's something similar for the 1/16 revo/slash. You'll figure something out I'm sure :beerchug:
 

generis

Maybe take up knitting.
well, we all know that the ifs will eat time and energy out of this project, so for the mean time, I decided (rightly, I think) to just link up the thing with a solid front and then I can get it standing and get the tubing and body work done and get it rolling. The ifs will be a bolt on section anyway, so that's not any worry.
Today I got it linked front and rear, and just waiting for the shocks to show up from the neighborhood mailman! (getting very excited.) Turns out I will be making a tube bumper for this front and rear. I tried to get some other rear end ideas, or leave it alone, but I want to get the lights in the rear tubing.. so .. off to the bender and welder. I like that type of work anyway.. and actually liking making links now that I came up with some parts that work easily. I use this .25x.15 tubing now and 8-32 setscrews (.75 long) and thread a bit into the tube, stick in the setscrew, and add a revo rod end.. easy and simple for my no-patience mind :paranoid:
 

generis

Maybe take up knitting.
so here's some info... I had some time to get it laid out better and finalize some stuff.. here's what I came up with.
I like these links. Using them alot these days.

Rear:
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Center:
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Front:
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I wanted to see it when the (90mm) shocks are going to be fully extended, and it turns out to be like this:
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I sagged it down 8mm to 82mm shock length (which is how it sits on my Ford with the same shocks) and the look is like you see below. Added the body and did some cool stuff to it for locations.
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Please note that I did not trim the body on the 'HONCHO' lines that are outlined on the body. The wheelwells will be the same, but not in the front. I wanted more valance on it, and it looks like you see below. The body is trimmed around the frame as you see because there will be 2 frame mounts sticking through there for the front light bar and skid. There's still lots of room there for the servo to sit behind the grille and there's lots of room for lights etc.
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You can see here also that the giant trans gearbox for the Venom fits nicely under the hood with a few mm to spare. I sortof like this arrangement alot because I can stick a trimmed hard foam block on top of this trans to make a body damper for those bad roll-overs. It's a nice spot for that.. and gives me some hope the tall body will last in a crash (I fully plan to beat it senseless.. I expect some nasty crashing). You can also see how using the 'HONCHO' stock body line in the front would expose some extra stuff in the front that doesn't need to be shown. I like it with the low front line!
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To keep the setup as low as possible, I stuck the frame rails inside the axial cage. It sits real nice on top, but I wanted to lower the entire workings, so with the rails inside the cage box, it works perfect. There's still lots of room for the suspension and everything tucks in real nice. That being the case, the cage will become a permanent part of the framing, and only the body will come off for servicing. I'll work on how to do that soon enough, but I have some cool ideas on that already.....
All these body on pics are at sitting ride height.. where I intend to have it for a run.
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This is actually a fairly large truck.. considering it's got 2.2 tires on it (larger od than roklox) and a 13+ inch wheelbase....More later...
 

generis

Maybe take up knitting.
well large or not, it's 2 inches shorter than my ford so far HAHAHA!:laugh: The thing is getting a bumper/winch front end in the next few days so that will add some, but I did some cool shortening in the rear:
Here's a couple of pics that show the now shortened cage with (finally) my shocks, and the much shortened length of the whole setup. Pic 1 is full extended shocks, pic 2 full compression, And with weight in it, I hope to have it in the middle somewhere.. lower than higher. (perspective on these pics seem odd, but you get the idea....)

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I have the frame actually OVER the cage of the honcho stuff, and the shock towers on the CC frame are right on the deck of the flatbed portion. Works well! and with the spare in the back, there will be nothing showing at all. Ignore the messy bolts around. I'm just trying to hold it together for setup.

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Now there's almost no over hang in the rear, and very little in the nose.. that should help a bunch with the near vertical bumps.
Making the winch mounts/front bumper stuff now, as well as the Venom axle lockouts! Love my job!

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generis

Maybe take up knitting.
Light Bar!
I made up a plate for the light buckets, I'm going for this look, and although I won't get it exactly, here's the look :
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So I got this bar made up (stainless sheet) and drilled it up for the buckets.

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So the metal section there that's the base for the lights will be welded to the back of a tube bumper that crosses the front of the truck there, and then the lower skid will attach below that.

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generis

Maybe take up knitting.
and with the skid on:

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Now to find a way to stick the winch fairlead inside there someplace........
 
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