Trini?s Old Holden Shed !!

Hey guys! I read on the interwebs that Holden (GMH), GM?s Australian Division, has stopped all production a year or two ago. The reasons being finances etc as a result of poor sales. Don?t know why they never considered making a retro-styled Monaro and a Sandman PanelVan, much like Ford?s Mustang, GM?s Camaro and Dodge?s Challenger... !
Anywho, Holdens may no longer be in production over there, but not in my neck ?o the woods they ain?t! Lol
As stated in the Sandman thread, I want to attempt to build every variation of the HQ and HX body styles! So that will mean a Panel Van, a Ute, a Station Wagon, a One Tonner and a Monaro Coupe in both the standard HQ style and then the Premier (twin headlight) style! Same for the HX, so I count 20 vehicles in total...

Anywho...I will probably use this thread for building parts, then start a new thread for assembling the various body styles...!

So first update ! :biggthumpup:

I had to revise the HQ Nose panel that I started last year, the headlight surrounds were off, and then I also got the bumper built and just started to get the details like indicator light holes in.. once I get the HQ nose where I want it I will be making a cast of it and then modding said cast to the Premier version.
The HX Premier version nose shown here, is a cast of the HX nose (off the Sandman) that has been modded! Still need to do some tidying up on it then will make a mold of it and run off some casts!

Anywho... here?s a few pics of where it?s at ... watcha think?


B1929D91-ACF4-422E-B47C-7D10B23D3EBA by Preston Lalan, on Flickr

77879CE2-4A35-4D3B-8845-AA9139B243CC by Preston Lalan, on Flickr

987B0ACD-F36C-4AC5-B087-665C58202EB9 by Preston Lalan, on Flickr

7139FD85-4BE3-40BB-B9C5-A8051596F63E by Preston Lalan, on Flickr

6422B794-50B6-4E05-81D4-38D1727A4834 by Preston Lalan, on Flickr




825736DC-F701-4117-B2ED-5070A9BA56B2 by Preston Lalan, on Flickr

A2531B70-A419-4DC0-A0C7-70254C7C6B98 by Preston Lalan, on Flickr

B19FC8EF-E27F-42E2-9A3C-AA1B1E97C727 by Preston Lalan, on Flickr
 
Hey guys...here?s another update!:lol:

Did a bunch of wet sanding, puttying, sanding, priming, sanding, puttying, sanding, priming, sanding........ :wacko::crazy: well....you get the idea... till I basically said ?thats it ... it?s not perfect, but perfect enough :blink: lol... decided to lay down some paint as it?s the surest way to see any defects... once the paint cures in a couple of days, I?ll make the mold and then make a couple of casts. This way, the casts will be just like the painted pieces and will require minimum work when assembling...:idea:

Anywho, here?s a few pics...watcha think? I think it kinda looks like a HQ...:hmmm:

224A6E41-6342-456D-8D8E-7D2237BF90FB by Preston Lalan, on Flickr

5D7A2E6E-4CEE-43EF-B76A-A614EF22FC31 by Preston Lalan, on Flickr

4617CEF1-3B4E-4A93-B997-48CFA164AB5C by Preston Lalan, on Flickr

349F7D2A-ABB4-4295-A846-B89B49A8DFF8 by Preston Lalan, on Flickr

919816C7-6092-455E-B5A6-4F4EDEDF435D by Preston Lalan, on Flickr

E5DCF99E-2050-4238-B1AB-E84E61BC33AF by Preston Lalan, on Flickr

126A58B7-47AA-4BCA-ADA1-6245679F006B by Preston Lalan, on Flickr
 

TLC

Scaled, but not fishy.
So far, so awesome! :biggthumpup:
I really admire your ambition mate, that's a whole lot o' styrene 'n gluing your planning there.
Can't wait to see your HQ 2 door Monaro, one of the best Aussie 70's Muscle cars. (And I was a Ford bloke) ::2thumbs
 
So far, so awesome! :biggthumpup:
I really admire your ambition mate, that's a whole lot o' styrene 'n gluing your planning there.
Can't wait to see your HQ 2 door Monaro, one of the best Aussie 70's Muscle cars. (And I was a Ford bloke) ::2thumbs

Thanks man!
 
Finally got the molds done....!
Had a bit of a snafu...I messed up the original master :mecry: got it painted and clear coated, then realized that I used polycarb paint :dry: which resulted in the paint not curing properly and the headlight surrounds started to disintegrate :yikes:

So had to remake the master.

Here?s a few pics of the cast bits and the master on the body...


EBB93F1B-44B0-4958-9A9D-7386785AF7A2 by Preston Lalan, on Flickr

CD44D6F9-430C-4235-81CD-FAC1DEAF9399 by Preston Lalan, on Flickr


95E53649-3368-4B1E-8B5A-0F9A47730DA3 by Preston Lalan, on Flickr


And here?s a pic of the disaster...:eek:


ACA5FBBD-F394-4228-AC2C-5EC64F0B8627 by Preston Lalan, on Flickr
 

Frederik

Supporting Member
Hey Preston! I still love the messed up piece lol! The chrome and orange paint really makes it pop nicely. Is it me or that polycarbonate orange is quite a bit brighter and more red than your Sandman in the background?

Can't wait to see the progress on the one tonner, it is a very cool platform I think! Are they going to be more of a utility type with smaller stock-ish tires, or are you thinking customized and sporty? How 'bout you post some reference pics of the style you are into for each model? :lol:
 
Hey Preston! I still love the messed up piece lol! The chrome and orange paint really makes it pop nicely. Is it me or that polycarbonate orange is quite a bit brighter and more red than your Sandman in the background?

Can't wait to see the progress on the one tonner, it is a very cool platform I think! Are they going to be more of a utility type with smaller stock-ish tires, or are you thinking customized and sporty? How 'bout you post some reference pics of the style you are into for each model? :lol:

Hey Fred ! Yeah, the polycarbonate orange is a different shade from the one I used on the Sandman...! As for the Tonner, it all depends on how I go about the chassis...still not sure at the moment though.... it may be difficult to get stockish looking rims, although I think that the 1.55 landies might be the ticket... still have to think on it some more!
 

Frederik

Supporting Member
Would stock-ish be 15 inches rims? Did you calculate the exact scale of your body, so we can know what exact size wheels to look for? For instance by measuring the lenght of the whole car, or one specific part, and comparing to actual size.
 
Would stock-ish be 15 inches rims? Did you calculate the exact scale of your body, so we can know what exact size wheels to look for? For instance by measuring the lenght of the whole car, or one specific part, and comparing to actual size.

Well the dimensions scales out to 1/10, based on the 1:1 measurements that I found online - overall length, wheelbase and width. It may be off, but by a very small percentage, for example, the wheelbase on the 1:1 Sandman is 2896mm so 1/10 scale being 289.6 mm. The wheelbase of the TF2 chassis that I used is 287mm. The stock wheels are 14?. So 1.55 are the closest that I can get off the shelf, other than those, there are the VTA wheel and tire combo similar to the HPI vintage ones that have the tires fitting on the side of the wheel, giving the impression of a smaller wheel with a taller tire sidewall...
 

Frederik

Supporting Member
Well the dimensions scales out to 1/10, based on the 1:1 measurements that I found online - overall length, wheelbase and width. It may be off, but by a very small percentage, for example, the wheelbase on the 1:1 Sandman is 2896mm so 1/10 scale being 289.6 mm. The wheelbase of the TF2 chassis that I used is 287mm. The stock wheels are 14”. So 1.55 are the closest that I can get off the shelf, other than those, there are the VTA wheel and tire combo similar to the HPI vintage ones that have the tires fitting on the side of the wheel, giving the impression of a smaller wheel with a taller tire sidewall...

Mmm 14” wheels are actually 15” since the bead is the part that is 14”. So you would be looking for a wheel of 1.4” which happens to be the dimension of Tamiya Mini (M chassis) wheels. Maybe it would be worth buying a cheap set and see if the dimension looks right. At first glance it looks small, but the math seems to tell it should be the right size??

I recently discovered the Tamiya truck tires tamiya #51589 that fit on M chassis wheels, but have way beefier profile. Thinking it would look nice maybe, I have a set so I'll snap a picture of these tires on the various M chassis wheels I got, maybe one of them you will like! I think it would look more like a classic fat, high profile but sporty tire though, not a stock narrow tire.

I'll measure them up too. I think they are the same outer diameter as regular touring car tires.


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Frederik

Supporting Member
I have just measured and the tires are quite a bit bigger than tourning car diameter, they measure about 2.75 inch. And I measured the M chassis wheels, they are more like 1.6 inch, so they scale at 15 inch wheels. You might find difficult to find M chassis wheels that would match the style you need on this type of car though.

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The other nice options are those wheels with a fake sidewall you talked about. You can either put normal tires on them (flatter sidewall and not too wide, otherwise the tire buldge will not look right with the fake sidewall). There are two different types, you should use the ones with the smaller fake sidewall, not the drift ones with the wide plastic band, these are for a streched look tire (the sidewall is much angled and looks weird).

Also if you choose the right wheels type like these:

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The HPI vintage tires actually fit over the fake sidewall step, and it looks 100% legit sidewall just like the factory HPI wheels (on the right above). If you put regular tires on them they can also look quite good depending on the tire (left).


EDIT: took a few more measurements and made the calculation what 1:1 size they represent if your bodies are 1:10, but I don't know what tires dimension the 1:1 had:


Order from left to right in below pic:

235/75/17 1.55 dirt grabber on 1.55 steelies
245/50/16 hpi vintage tires on hpi vintage wheels or on the gold wheels
235/65/15 Tamiya racing truck tires on tamiya M chassis wheels
225/45/15 tamiya 60mm tires on tamiya M chassis wheels


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I think the rear racing truck wheels are concave enough you could put an insert in them or modify them to look like you want. Most of the other M chassis diameter wheels look more like FWD cars...


245/60/17 Tamiya racing truck tires on 1.55 landies (center in below pics)


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